The meaning of collar
Looking through topics and pictures of your forum I've got a question... 😕
In our BDSM community a collar is very importent thing for submissive partner.
It's "the dress" for a session. Usually we use normal dog's collar from pet's shops, because it's easier to find and cheaper.
It's "the dress" for daily wearing. Usually it's something like jewelry.
I asked my Master about the collar a daily year after the begining of our relations. He answered "the collar is in your brain, not on you neck". But still he agreed to allow me to wear daily collar which he bought on his choice.
I think that a collar is smth like a fetish for submissive.
But looking through the photos on your site I didn't notice it to be that popular as I expected.
Is here any topic in Turkish about this subject?
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in fact, collar is very important thing in my contry... especially in daily conversations, partners talks about collar such a important things. but it isnt more common, because there arent expert persons and special places (dungen, special rooms like this) about BDSM.
and eventhougt so many people lives this relationships hidden on their houses... because of this, they dont keep this equipments on their houses...
İnsanın Sevgisi Ne Kadar Büyükse Vereceği Ceza da O Kadar Büyük Olur...
You have noticed a very true point CatSaba. In Turkey collar is not widely used in BDSM relations. The one's who are using it don't use it in the sense you mentioned. Mostly used for pet plays.
As far as I know collar is mostly used in Anglo Sakson countries. Now I also learned Russia is on the board.
Ok, I see. In our BDSM traditions the collar is very importent.
The moment Master put on his bottom the daily collar is smth like a widding in "normal" life... It's very emotional moment. We say about the begining of relations "He put on her his collar". We say: "The only right of the slave is to remove the collar". We say: "I've removed his collar" at the moment of BDSM "divorce".
The action of choosing the collar for me by my Master was really exciting. We spent all the day for shopping together. I scared and worried.... because I didn't know that kind of collar I would have to wear.... all the time... 24/7
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--p.65, Hunters of Gor
"What is the common purpose of a collar?"
"The collar has four common purposes, Master," she said, "First, it visibly designates me as a slave, as a brand might not, should it be covered by clothing. Second, it impresses my slavery upon me. Thirdly, it identifies me to my Master. Fourthly - fourthly - "
"Fourthly?" he asked.
"Fourthly," she said, "it makes it easier to leash me."
Tal catsaba
I think this quote qould be enough for your answer but in addition to excerpt must say that up to My way of lifestyle collar is pride of Master and His property and it is 7/24 .Collar is not given but earned when slavegirl is ready she begs for collar in certain way with certain words . Nowdays fake slaves and fake Masters are dime a dozen so velcro collars too .Once I d heard a pompous rookie girl said "she had had many collars next to her feet " it was funny sooo funny and her words are rubbish to make it short collar is a serious thing ,dead serious thing ,. Uncollaring slave is not divorcing because in both r/l and cyber Master very scarcely took His slave as a companion so correct word must be waste (kill )her virtually of course LOL uncollaring slave generally causes " headless chicken syndrome" on freed slave she bonks her head wall to wall like headless chicken fled from butcher because she is a slave and slave fire in her belly have waken up . Poor creature .
I wish Y/you well and fair winds
LPP
PS a snug fit turian collar couldbe worn 24/7 secure enough and good as a jewellery know that by experience (smiles )
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Thank you very much LORD PETERPEINE, of course I've read all those books and I know the ideas of John Norman on this subject.
It's exciting reading... suitable for some role-play but not for our real life as we live in our social reality.
Hm.... you know I think that if a "slave" loosing a Master feels as "headless chicken" this happens due to irresponsibility of the Master. It's very easy for a Master to involve a submissive in deep obedience. But it's much more difficult to let a bottom to keep eyes opened, to handle "thinking" submissive and to feel own responsibility for her ability keep living in real life.
Also in this topic I speak not only about LS slaves but also about D/s relations in which the collar still remains the sign of Master.
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Tal Catsaba
I didnt expect immediate answer and thnx for kind words but I must say I strongly disagree some parts of your comments.
!- I am gorean and lifestyler for some decades and living My daily life to gorean moral values also of course slavery is not legal thru the word and /or slay the slave or hamstrung slave is impossible
but
living the life on nonesty basis and believe leniance is a humiliation for both giver and taker is quite possible in real life
2-If slave makes major mistake for example lie to her Master on some issue uncollaring is evitable for her thats what she deserve . This is not Masters fault and no one couls blame Him . If the slave doesnt desrve pride of her collar of course she must be deprived of bearing that . As you commented if Master lacks /sucks to handle His slave of course slave would flee but this poses the dilemma slave without collar doesnt change the fact she is a slavegirl and by nature she d want another snug fit steel around her neck obviously slave heat in herbelly urges that at this point slavegirl is headless chicken but I think one cannot blame each party and generalize or set a rule who is irresponsible thats what I mean
I wish you well and clear paths on your journey Catsaba girl
LPP
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I don't see a problem if people disagree sometimes ) Everybody has his own belief, it's OK )
On my oppinion feelings which Norman tries to show as "original" for any woman in fact are just smth like The Stockholm Syndrome.
"...Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
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