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(@catsaba)
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It's not a secret that the beginnig of relations is risky. It's definitely risky for health, brain, soul, even life of the bottom partner. It's risky for the Top partner as well, because bad-known bottom can go to police after session...

How do you manage the most beginnig? How to protect yourself? Where is the deadline of "enough" trust to meet? Do you discuss and agree taboo and the "stop-word"?

And also one more question... It's supposed to be that the difference of positions exists only inside the couple. Which means that outside the couple everybody are "equal". What I mean... in Russian language the same as in Turkish we can say to each other "sen" or "siz". Normally on special BDSM sites and forums people communicate equally as in any other life relations - both talk to each other the same way, BDSM position doesn't matter. And only after the couple agreed to try they change to "Siz-sen", sometimes don't change... for example my Master wanted me to tell him "sen" also.
How do you usually communicate inside the BDSM community?

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Gönderildi : 26 Ekim 2012 21:41
(@blodmeister)
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Yes you're right,in such a world these kinds of relationships will always have some risks. But every action you take in life has some risks. Noone guarantee that you pass tomorrow alive. Okay, this seems a ridiculous suggestion but it is true. If you wanna feel fine details of some feelings you have to take risks. After session going to police is an optimistic risk cos you may pay the worth of some mistakes with very your life.

I don't know how the oldschool BDSM meetings were arranged before internet age but nowadays meetings usually ve being arranged by internet. First of all you re affected a guy's/girl's posts at a board and you examine his/her posts deeply. His/her ideas/behaviors fit to you and you wanna meet with him/her. After a few meeting sentences msn addresses will be taken if it's proper. After all these, the most important part starts for me. First time you see his/her pic. I always beware of exaggerated pics. You know some pics look natural and some don't. This may give you an option about what you re talking with. Of course your experiences has more significancy to know who you re talking with and i think if you re smart enough, there ll be no problem at that point. And yes... It's all about being smart and experienced to lower the risks min.

After msn chapter i want to arrange a real meeting. If you feel yourself unsafe, you may tell where the meeting will be carried out to a friend and this makes you feel a bit safe. Of course you tell your partner that you d told a friend where the meeting will be carried out. At first meeting, you may recognize your partner more closer and your opinions become more crystal. You draw your borders and he/she draws his/her. If you agree with borders you can arrange the first session. I never made her chosen a stop word, saying "stop" would always be enough. It's all about frequencies...

If i understood your "one more question" right, i can say that inside i prefer "siz" and outside "sen". i don't keep on relationship conditions where there re third parties.

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Gönderildi : 27 Ekim 2012 02:04
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There's nothing much expect mutual trust. A safe word would protect each partner from bad suprises -such as unplanned injuries. But ofcourse before the session, as BlodMeister mentioned above, online conversations are necessary until gaining trust.

 
Gönderildi : 27 Ekim 2012 21:09
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Thank you for your replying this topic. Smile

In Russia now we have some "fashion" for BDSM. A lot of people just heard a little about... and understood it there own way. They have nothing to do with philosophy and psychology of BDSM. A lot of men join a BDSM community just because they treat it as a easy way to get sex. So, as they think, all submissive girls are supposed to obey anyone who names himself "Master". Very often even the first message can be like "You bitch get on your knees". Sometimes it takes a lot of writing to find out the real intentions. Usually we have to be too much carefull...

And one of the most popular questions on the forums "Please Dominants, tell what do you think about your obeying partners after the session, out of the session? Do you respect them after all they allow you to do?"
Do you?

Afacan meraklı özgür kediyim 🙂

 
Gönderildi : 29 Ekim 2012 18:58
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Thank you for your replying this topic. Smile

In Russia now we have some "fashion" for BDSM. A lot of people just heard a little about... and understood it there own way. They have nothing to do with philosophy and psychology of BDSM. A lot of men join a BDSM community just because they treat it as a easy way to get sex. So, as they think, all submissive girls are supposed to obey anyone who names himself "Master". Very often even the first message can be like "You bitch get on your knees". Sometimes it takes a lot of writing to find out the real intentions. Usually we have to be too much carefull...

And one of the most popular questions on the forums "Please Dominants, tell what do you think about your obeying partners after the session, out of the session? Do you respect them after all they allow you to do?"
Do you?

You know what, at your first paragraph replace Turkey instead of Russia and you get same scene. So don't expect too much from here Smile
This depends on what kind of relationship you prefered; roleplay or lifestyle. If your relationship is limited with sessions, after session submissive may slam the door and go and master can't say anything about this behaviour. This kind of relationship looks like trading more. You satisfied me i satisfied you, then bye bye. If you don't want to limit your relationship with sessions and try to be more serious (of course all of these are only my opinions as master), after session while won't go on freely. I expect continuous service and review my slave's behaviours; is she pleased, is she doing her the duties i gave to her willingly, is she eager etc. This will measure my respect to her. But she never know the respect i feel her Smile very very occasional. Respect will remain inside me hidden.

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Gönderildi : 29 Ekim 2012 21:00
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You know what, at your first paragraph replace Turkey instead of Russia and you get same scene. So don't expect too much from here Smile

I do not expect what ever is, just wonderıng Smile But already I see some difference which makes me respect people of thıs forum. Whıle my being here I haven't received no one "bad" message, all are friendly and polite, I'm happy with it, but surprised Smile

Afacan meraklı özgür kediyim 🙂

 
Gönderildi : 29 Ekim 2012 21:37
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How do you manage the most beginnig? How to protect yourself? Where is the deadline of "enough" trust to meet? Do you discuss and agree taboo and the "stop-word"?

How do you usually communicate inside the BDSM community?

I think there is no tangible criteria for determining the "deadline" of "enough" trust to meet. It depends on the people involved. I mean there is no check list to fill in and if the person gets 75+ then I may meet her. Smile What I am doing is checking the consistency of the person a head of me, continually for a "long" - again no tangible limit - time. If there is something "wrong" in the person it reflects to what is written/said/communicated.

Safe word is a must for SSC. https://www.bdsmturk.com/forum/ssc-t4771.html

Regarding "addressing" issue we normally address each other as in our "ordinary" life. It is considered as being rude if a dominant asks to a bottom to address as Master/Mistress if he/she (bottom) is not belonging to the dominant. Unfortunately there are some such rude people around but they finally understand the correct way of addressing if they spend some time among us. The ones who don't understand goes away by the time Smile

 
Gönderildi : 30 Ekim 2012 13:30
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Do you respect them after all they allow you to do?"
Do you?

Yes I do !!!!

The one who submits by own will means a strong person.

 
Gönderildi : 30 Ekim 2012 13:33
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Do you respect them after all they allow you to do?"
Do you?

Yes I do !!!!

The one who submits by own will means a strong person.
:rose:
My Master taught me this.
It is considered as being rude if a dominant asks to a bottom to address as Master/Mistress if he/she (bottom) is not belonging to the dominant.
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Safe word is a must for SSC.
I know that I'm asking "naive" questions, the "ABC" of BDSM. I just want to make sure that we speak the same language.... yes it's funny phrase of Russian woman writing in English in Turkish forum Grin But still I'm sure you understand what I mean.
And I'm going to continue asking Smile

Afacan meraklı özgür kediyim 🙂

 
Gönderildi : 30 Ekim 2012 19:10
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I know that I'm asking "naive" questions, the "ABC" of BDSM. I just want to make sure that we speak the same language.... yes it's funny phrase of Russian woman writing in English in Turkish forum Grin But still I'm sure you understand what I mean.
And I'm going to continue asking Smile
Please go an asking meraklı kedi. Smile

 
Gönderildi : 31 Ekim 2012 10:44
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Tal A/all
As a lifestyler must say that there are sooo many wannabes ,rookies ,fakes in the field and her eturkiye is not an exception in fact its same thru the world indeed so rules are well written and clear SSC is the thumb of rule of course and good relationship comes to life like a baby and grows up so both parties must feed .care and allow it to perfection .
For the adressing
common rule is if a person is on the dominant side adressed as Sir , or Maam or Lady by subs if it is Gorean relationship All Dominants wouıld be adressed as Master and female ones as Lady but must say the word Master defines possesion on sub so in general Bdsm subs adress only their Master as "Master"
hope these words would be helpful to you sub.
I wish Y/you well and clear paths on Y/your journey
LPP

EVERY WOMAN HAS A SLAVE IN HER BELLY

 
Gönderildi : 31 Ekim 2012 22:50
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For the adressing
common rule is if a person is on the dominant side adressed as Sir , or Maam or Lady by subs if it is Gorean relationship All Dominants wouıld be adressed as Master and female ones as Lady but must say the word Master defines possesion on sub so in general Bdsm subs adress only their Master as "Master"
hope these words would be helpful to you sub.
LPP

Sure it's really helpful, thank you LORD PETERPEINE.
I think I've got now the reason of great misunderstanding between BDSM people in their communication. Smile Some people treat BDSM in Gorean way as a lifestyle for a community with common rules inside of it.
Other people treat BDSM as a sexual deviation, as a privat lifestyle of a couple with it's own rules.
If I treat everyone except MY Master as an equal, but you treat ANY submissive as a slave, we will never find a way to communicate without making each other deathly angry )))))

Afacan meraklı özgür kediyim 🙂

 
Gönderildi : 3 Kasım 2012 20:58
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